Update on My Acct 301 Pretest

Sorry for this late update, I was changing webhosts and so decided not to make another post until the dns had propogated (don’t worry if you don’t know what that means).

I got 17 in my Acctg 301 pretest out of 30. I first couldn’t believe it coz I didn’t guess a single thing on the test, when I was confused it was only between 2 choices and it happend in 4-5 questions. 21 and above is pass so I guess I will be taking this test again. No worries as I still have to complete 2 pre-requisites before I can take my first upper division accounting class.

Since friday, this thing has been making me crazy and at the same time I feel like something went terribly wrong. I was done within one hour and knew I would get more than 21 without any problems but I was soooooo wrong.

Let me tell you little about the pretest. The last time it was revised was in 2004. It had a question on Dividends. I have no idea how one can relate adjusting entries and dividends together. On the pretest website they explicitly say to review the 3rd chapter of any Intermediate Financial Accounting book and you will be good to go. Please tell what book out there talks about Dividends in the 3rd Chapter?

From SFSU Acct 301 Pre-test information page:

“Students may prepare for the pretest by studying any introductory financial accounting textbook which includes material on the double entry bookkeeping system (i.e., debits and credits). Most introductory financial accounting textbooks cover this material. A more efficient method of preparation is studying the review chapter, usually chapter three, of any intermediate financial accounting textbook.”

That’s not all, this Dividend question is a trick question. The answer is NONE or None of the above and I got it wrong. There was this other question out of the blue that had to do with some principle, answer to that was Recognition and I picked Matching because 3rd chapter in any accounting book deals with only matching concept.

Update 04/22/2009
There are two more questions I was able to get a hold of, one deals with Airline tickets and the other one is about Magazine Subscriptions. Does anyone remember anything about that?

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  • Angel

    Zahid, Thanks a bunch. I see what you mean now. Thanks to the guest above as well. More to follow.

  • Angel

    Zahid, Thanks a bunch. I see what you mean now. Thanks to the guest above as well. More to follow.

  • guest

    Hey Zahid can you answer a few questions I put up earler?
    If you debit an increase an asset, it could also mean.. increase in liabilities, decrease in expenses, don’t really remember the answers, but its something like that.

    Dividend question

    Airline question, where tickets were bought in December (or something) and at the end of the period, they were some that were unused/or will be used in January. Lets say.. total of all tickets was $800. At the end of the period they would $200 would be unused or will be used in January. How would you journal this?

    I’m trying to remember all the questions so I know what I did right and what I did wrong in the test.

  • guest

    Hey Zahid can you answer a few questions I put up earler?
    If you debit an increase an asset, it could also mean.. increase in liabilities, decrease in expenses, don’t really remember the answers, but its something like that.

    Dividend question

    Airline question, where tickets were bought in December (or something) and at the end of the period, they were some that were unused/or will be used in January. Lets say.. total of all tickets was $800. At the end of the period they would $200 would be unused or will be used in January. How would you journal this?

    I’m trying to remember all the questions so I know what I did right and what I did wrong in the test.

  • Angel

    I just took the pretest this morning. I'm not sure exactly which question your first one was, but there was one that asked what the affect of a debit was on accounts. I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure the answer was: debits increase assets and expenses and decrease liabilities and revenue/owner's equity.
    The second question you asked about should have debited Unearned service revenue for what was used up by the end of Dec (800-200=600, I'm using your numbers) and credited service revenue for 600. The remaining debit balance in the unearned revenue should be 200 that is unused as of Jan 1.

  • Angel

    I just took the pretest this morning. I'm not sure exactly which question your first one was, but there was one that asked what the affect of a debit was on accounts. I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure the answer was: debits increase assets and expenses and decrease liabilities and revenue/owner's equity.
    The second question you asked about should have debited Unearned service revenue for what was used up by the end of Dec (800-200=600, I'm using your numbers) and credited service revenue for 600. The remaining debit balance in the unearned revenue should be 200 that is unused as of Jan 1.

  • Angel

    Other topics on the exam:
    -FASB: what it is (1?)
    -GAAP: what it is(1?)
    -***Adjusting Entries (5+?): what accounts are frequently used to record AE (e.g. assets, liability, equity, etc.) and the effects on those accounts (inc. or dec.); how to record adjusting entries based on unearned revenue, interest, depreciation, and similar scenarios
    -The order you prepare financial statements: income stmt., stmt. of owner's equity, balance sheet (1?)… I'm starting to blank on the rest, but I'll post back as I think of more. My advice is to use the entire time and READ EACH QUESTION SOOO CAREFULLY! If you've had a class in accounting basics, the test isn't so very hard, but I felt it was very tricky. Good luck everyone.

  • Angel

    Other topics on the exam:
    -FASB: what it is (1?)
    -GAAP: what it is(1?)
    -***Adjusting Entries (5+?): what accounts are frequently used to record AE (e.g. assets, liability, equity, etc.) and the effects on those accounts (inc. or dec.); how to record adjusting entries based on unearned revenue, interest, depreciation, and similar scenarios
    -The order you prepare financial statements: income stmt., stmt. of owner's equity, balance sheet (1?)… I'm starting to blank on the rest, but I'll post back as I think of more. My advice is to use the entire time and READ EACH QUESTION SOOO CAREFULLY! If you've had a class in accounting basics, the test isn't so very hard, but I felt it was very tricky. Good luck everyone.

  • http://www.medishared.net/ uhy

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  • Acct Guy

    Angel, did you pass?

  • ???

    I took the pretest this morning, its now May 2009 revised. Similar to the previous one, but I didn't see that unearned airline revenue question on there anymore…

  • http://www.mylifedump.com zaddy

    That's interesting :)

  • Name

    god,,i have to take the pre test next sat, and it is the last exam 8/15….will they open another exam on 8/22…i signed up acct 301,307…if i fail i would hv no class to take..

  • B

    Got a 18 on 8/1
    Got a 19 on 8/15

    F*** this test. Now I can't take the courses. They don't allow anyone who comes that close? Twice?

  • help

    Has anyone found the correct answers to the May 2009 updated version of the pretest? I got a 19 on my first try.

    Questions but I don’t really remember the choices:

    Paying an Accounts Payable will: decrease liabilities, increase liabilities, decrease assets, …., none of the above

    Collecting an Accounts Receivable will: increase assets, decrease assets, decrease liabilities, ….., none of the above
    This will increase assets right?

  • help

    Has anyone found the correct answers to the May 2009 updated version of the pretest? I got a 19 on my first try.

    Questions but I don’t really remember the choices:

    Paying an Accounts Payable will: decrease liabilities, increase liabilities, decrease assets, …., none of the above

    Collecting an Accounts Receivable will: increase assets, decrease assets, decrease liabilities, ….., none of the above
    This will increase assets right?

  • bobby

    So i did not pass the first time.. but failed at trying to remember the questions that are on the test

    can anyone post some example of what questions are on the new revised test?

  • bobby

    So i did not pass the first time.. but failed at trying to remember the questions that are on the test

    can anyone post some example of what questions are on the new revised test?

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    Paying on Accounts Payable will increase your liabilities.

    Accounts Payable is a liability account, so if you are buying something but do not pay with cash at that point, you are increasing your liabilities that have to be paid off in the future.

    Collecting on Accounts Receivable will not have any effect on your accounts. Keep in mind that according to the “Revenue recognition principle” you recognize revenue when services are performed.

    According to that, your Accounts Receivable is already an asset account. When you collect money, all you're doing is debiting Cash and crediting Accounts Receivable. There is no effect.

    I am registered to take the Accounting 301 Pretest on August 7. Hopefully it will not be too bad.

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    Bobby, I will try to remember and post the new questions once I have taken the test on August 7.

  • Summer 2010

    If you pay off Accounts Payable, you are decreasing your liabilities. It will not decrease your assets because a liability account simply is the portion of business assets that creditors have a legal claim against. So when you credited “Accounts Payable” you already accounted for the decreased assets. When you pay it off, you are just reducing the liabilities.

    When you collect Cash from someone, you will credit Accounts Receivable. This has no effect on your assets or liabilities. Accounts Receivable is already an asset account. You accounted for the increase in assets when you performed the services (Revenue Recognition Principle) and debited Accounts Receivable. All you are doing by collecting on that account is debiting cash and crediting Accounts Receivable. The effect is none since both of them are asset accounts.

  • Summer 2010 test

    Who determines rules of GAAP?
    (FASB) was not one of the choices.

    A company receives $108,000 from 1000 customers at the rate of $36 per year for 3 year subscriptions in November. In December they publish their first magazine. On Dec 31, you would make the following entry…
    1) Record $3000 as revenue and record $105,000 as a liability.
    …. other choices with one being “none of the above.”

    This was the second question on the test and at first it made no sense.. but I had some time to go back and check over my answers.
    So the company receives $36,000 per year.. which should be divided into 12 months. This would come out to be $3,000 per month. (35,000/12). Since the company only published 1 magazine for the year, they would record $3,000 as revenue and the rest $105,000 as liability.

    Another question was asking to recognize the accounting cycle.
    One question was asking about the order in which financial statements are prepared. This also included “State of Cash Flows.”

    I felt the test was brutal. It was a little tricky and there were a lot of people who left after the first 30 minutes. I guess they figured they were not going to pass.

    By the time the test was done, there were only about 8 people left out of the 30+ we started out with.

    Almost 70% of the test is hardcore adjusting entries. The 301 pretest will test your knowledge of accounting thoroughly. People who think they will breeze by are going to be in for a surprise. You really need to understand the concepts.

  • A.J.

    So, how did it go?

  • GB

    I put “SEC” for the answer to the question ” Who determines rules of GAAP? ”

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    Same here. I believe the keyword to look for in that question was.. “SEC (exclusively)”

    They do not determine it exclusively, so the next best answer should have been that the rules are derived from acceptance from creditors, investors, government, etc.

    I am sure that one I got wrong because I erased it and went with “Securities and Exchange (exclusively)” answer although I felt it was the wrong choice.

    Looks like I am posting as “Singh” when I am not logged into this account, just to clear the confusion.

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    There was another question that I remember.

    When you decrease assets on one side, on the other side you can..
    a) …
    b) …
    c) increase assets
    d) none of the above

    I went with “increase assets” as none of the other one made sense. You can decrease the asset account of “Accounts Receivable” and increase the asset account “Cash”

    I wonder how many people didn’t even think about that lol..

    • Benedd19

      how about the question that says decrease asset

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    Just remembered another question something along the lines of..

    If a company has accrued salaries of $205,000 for December but are not going to be paid until January of next year. The company will record this amount as an expense on Dec 31.

    This is an example of..
    a) …
    b) The revenue recognition principle
    c) The matching principle
    d) None of the above

    There was another question relating to the matching principle.

    I will post more if I can think of any.

  • Ben

    i remember a question on what best describe liabilities…answers were
    a. decrease net income
    b. decrease assets
    c. obligations to creditors
    d. A and C
    e. B and C
    i went with C. obligation to creditors but was debating about answer E

    • http://www.businessamateur.com business plan

      Yeah, I also put Obligation to Creditors.

  • Summer 2010 test

    The score is in and I did pass with a good score after taking it the first time. I still believe that the test is WAY too tough for an average student.

    There were people who have been trying to pass it since last year but keep failing over and over. I just don't understand the purpose of having a test if someone has passed their financial accounting 1 course with a good grade.

    Not only does the test require you to have THOROUGH knowledge of accounting, the questions are worded really badly. At first sight they don't even make sense. Then you have some questions that could be considered “subjective.”

    I do not want to scare anyone with what I am saying. I just want people to be WELL PREPARED before going into taking this test.

    My advice is to drill down on adjusting entries as much as you can. Drill down on prepaid assets and unearned revenues, as you will have questions to adjust these in some extremely weird ways on the test.

    There was a question about dividends but as well — it said something like…
    A company DECLARES dividends on November 12. This is going to show up on.
    a) Income Statement
    b) State of owner's equity
    c) Balance sheet
    d) None of the above

    When you see that question, you must know that a company record dividends as a liability as soon as they are DECLARED. So you would have to debit Retained Earnings and credit Dividends Payable. This would show up on the Balance Sheet as a short-term liability.

    Good luck.

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    Hello A.J.
    I posted as “Singh” below.

  • Cewcew444

    If a company has accrued salaries of $205,000 for December but are not going to be paid until January of next year. The company will record this amount as an expense on Dec 31.

    its that one b)?

  • Cewcew444

    there’s a true/false question relates to the matching principle….

    i remember a question’s answer but not the problem
    d) cash 12000 A/R 10000
    revenue 2000
    e) cash 12000 A/R 2000
    revenue 10000

    i scored a 15 on the third try…help me out guys!! im taking it again this sat

  • Cewcew444

    accrued revenue
    defered revenue
    accrued expense
    defered expense

  • Dee

    Does anyone remember the question where it ask if the company will pay a notes payable of 6000 36000 or something like that?

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    The way they word the problems on the test is tricky. The questions I am posting are in my own words so everyone can understand easily.

    A company has $100,000 of supplies. They buy $80,000 of supplies in addition to that. The company does not keep records of supplies as they are used. At the end of the year, there is $75,000 balance left.

    The entry to record this at the end of the year would be..
    a) Debit “Supplies Expense” $105,000 and credit “Supplies $105,000

    To solve this problem, just make a T account. You have $100,000 + $80,000 with a total of $180,000 balance. If at the end of the year there is $75,000 left, that must mean the company should have used up $75,000 worth of supplies.

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    I picked “Matching Principle”

    You have to record the accrued expenses to match them against the revenues in the same period. Which is what the matching principle says.

    The Revenue Recognition Principle says that you recognize revenue when you perform services even if you do not receive the cash at that time.

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    I remember this one because this is one of the tricky ones.

    The exact scenario is hard for me to recall.. the answer was.

    Debit Cash 12,000
    Credit Interest Receivable 2,000
    Credit Interest Revenue 10,000

    The person had only recorded $2,000 in Interest Receivable at the end of the year, and then made no entry until the cash was received next year. So you HAVE to remove the $2,000 from Interest Receivable that was recorded at the end of last year. Then credit the rest $10,000 when you get the cash.

  • alcv

    congrats on passing singh! i’ve taken the test twice and failed both of them. im going to take it this saturday again. Thanks for sharing some of the q’s and a’s. I appreciate any help to pass this dreadful PRETEST…

    I remember a question on principles. I cant remember the exact wording. but the choices were
    - historical
    - materiality
    - full disclosure
    - …..
    - …..

  • Dee

    I think the worst thing for me is when i got my test all the answers were written in. I exchanged my booklet but it had me worried because looking at this other persons answer that were completely different from mine was real disheartening.
    Anyway the question I was referring to was where it said a company took out a notes payable of 360000 at 12 percent in nov 2011.
    And then it asked what if would pay back after a certain period of time and the answer were
    6000 to intrest payable and 6000 cash
    36000 to intrest payable and 36000 …..
    Anyone remember this.

  • Dee

    Were the test diffrent each time?

  • alcv

    @Dee

    i took the exam last year on August 15, 2009. and this past saturday on August 7, 2010. Both exams were the same. The cover said “last revised on may 2009″

    I still failed after having the same test -__-

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business ideas

    Thanks alcv. One of my friends also took it for the first time on August 7 but did not pass the pretest by 1 point. He is going to take it again on August 14.

    I cannot recall that question.

  • DEE

    there was a question about a company estimating a bill and what they what accounts they should credit and debit. I might have been tricked because I said that their was no accounts needed to be adjusted because I thought since they didn’t get the bill yet how exactly would they know from an estimate? Anyone know what I am talking about.

  • DEE

    there was a question about a company estimating a bill and what they what accounts they should credit and debit. I might have been tricked because I said that their was no accounts needed to be adjusted because I thought since they didn’t get the bill yet how exactly would they know from an estimate? Anyone know what I am talking about.

  • Darryl

    here’s a few questions i remember off the top of my head…for those who know the answers and are legitimate about it, please help the rest of us out…

    1) GAAP authority derives from
    -completely by SEC
    -institute of management accountant
    -…..accountants, creditors, investors, government, etc.
    -court proceedings

    2) What is the main purpose of adjusting entries
    -to assure asset and liabilities are equal
    -to recognize the true value of assets
    -to recognize the true value of liabilities
    -to assure revenues match expenses
    -to assure liabilities match expenses

    3) what is the accounting process
    -post to journal, ledger, trial balance, adjust
    -ledger, trial balance, adjust, close
    (both seems very reasonable, the other ones are incorrect)

    4) beginning balance of 100,000…purchase products of 80,000 throughout the year…paid 56,000 of the bills…75,000 was the ending balance….what do you record??
    -don’t remember the answers…does anyone know?

    5) according to FASB, what is the primary purpose of financial statements
    -for creditors and investors
    -for the IRS
    -for the IRS and SEC

    6) magazine subscription question…don’t really remember all the details but it was something like, customer paid for 1000 subscription for 2 yrs @ $36.00/ yr….what do you record
    -I went with none of the above…does anyone know the correct answer?

    7)sold something for 240,000…customer made a down payment of 100,000…what do you record?
    8) purchase an item worth 500,000…made a down payment of 100,000…what do you record?

    9) what best describe liabilities
    -decrease net income
    -decrease assets
    -obligations to creditors
    -A and C
    -B and C

    i took some of the questions posted and combined it with a few of my own questions. this test is beyond tricky and i wouldn’t be surprised if we all get an email stating there was a bunch of errors in the test. this is probably the hardest pretest at sfsu. i’ve taken the chemistry and the physics pretest and those were a breeze compared to this accounting pre-test. like previously stated, if anyone know the answers and are sure of it, please post it for the rest of us. it would be much appreciated

  • http://twitter.com/DoctorMontalban DoctorMontalban

    #3 confused me, too, since the two answers you mention are in the right order, but are both incomplete. Because they were just a portion of the cycle I chose “none of the above.” I was leaning towards the first one (journal, ledger, tb, adjust) but changed it to “none” since it seems weird to just pick 4 things, though starting with the right 4 things and leaving off the tail end kind of seemed right. Argh…irritating.

  • sfsu student

    just curious, has anyone re-used their receipt instead of paying to re-take another pretest? The students literally just glanced at my receipt to see if i paid. If that is the only time they check for proof of payment then i was thinking of just trying the same receipt. After failing twice i do not want to spend another $20. The receipt only shows the amount paid and says “accounting 301 pretest.” There is no specified date, only the date i paid on shows.

    thanks

  • http://www.businessamateur.com business plan

    Hello Darryl. I did take the test and pass it the first time with a decent score, so I am going to assume that the answers I put down were correct. Let me try to give answers. If I am wrong, please point it out to me.

    1) GAAP authority derives from
    a. Accountants, creditors, investors, government, etc.

    On the test I went with “completely by SEC” but that is obviously not true. The next possible answer would be that the authority is derived from everyone including accounts, investors, government.

    2) What is the main purpose of adjusting entries?
    a. To assure revenues match expenses.

    Adjusting entries are necessary to match revenues against expenses in the same period to get a true picture of what is happening with your business. The matching principle.

    3) What is the accounting process?
    a. None of the above

    The reason I personally wrote down none of the above is because the accounting process involves posting to Journal, Ledger, Trial Balance, Adjusting, Financial Statements, Closing.

    None of the answers actually had it in that format, so I picked “none of the above.” Please choose this at your own discretion.

    4) There is $100,000 in a Supplies account. The company purchases additional $80,000 Supplies. The balance at the end of the year is 75,000. The company does not keep a running record of when supplies are used. What do you record?
    a. Debit 105,000 Supplies expense
    Credit 105,000 Supplies

    I do believe this is what you are talking about. It was the first question on the second page.

    5) According to FASB, what is the primary purpose of financial statements?
    a. To inform creditors, investors and others to be able to make good decisions

    This should be easy. The periodicity concept states that a company has to prepare financial statements at least once a year to provide information on assets, liabilities and other things that are useful to everyone.

    6) A company receives $108,000 in November from 1000 customers for 3 years, at the rate of $36/year for magazine subscriptions. The company prints its first issue in December. At the end of the year what would you record?
    a. Record $3000 as revenue and $105,000 as liabilities.

    This is the second question on the test. At first, its confusing as hell because it is worded in such a stupid way. So a company has 1000 customers at $36 per customer for 3 years. So you actually received $36,000 per year for 3 years. (1000 customers multiplied by $36 per year) (3 years). Your total is $108,000. So if the company gets $36,000 per year, you now have to figure out how much the printed issue in December cost. You just divide $36,000 by 12 and get $3000.

    7)sold something for 240,000…customer made a down payment of 100,000…what do you record?

    I can’t think of this problem.
    8) purchase an item worth 500,000…made a down payment of 100,000…what do you record?
    I can’t think of this problem.

    9) What best describes liabilities?
    a. Obligations to Creditors

    That’s all it is, obligation to creditors. Liabilities do not affect net income. Liabilities do not necessarily decrease assets, but they are definitely obligations to creditors.

    For example: When a company declares dividends, they debit Retained Earnings and credit Dividends Payables. When they pay the dividends with stock, they reduce Dividends Payable and credit Common Stock. In this case, Common Stock is not an asset account but Stockholders’ equity. So liabilities do not always reduce assets, which is what the question is asking.

    Hope my explanations helped slightly.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_YWK5TZZMCNMRSNHVH5IFJFQYDY JenniferC

    I took the test today, don’t know if i passed but I remember these questions and being doubtful if i had the correct answer:

    1. Paying a utility bill could:
    a. increase expenses
    b. increase assets
    c. increase liabilities
    d. (forgot)

    I picked a. increase expense. Example: Debit Utilities Expense, Credit Utilities Payable

    2. According to FASB the main purpose of providing financial reports is to:
    a. Record company’s profits for the year
    b. Help make lending and investing decisions
    c. Provide information to SEC
    d. Provide information to IRS
    e. C and D

    I picked A, now looking back, the answer should be B

    3. Workers did work in 2011 but paid in 2012. THe following adjusting entry is recorded at the ended of 2011: Wages expense XXX
    Wages payable XXX
    Which principle was applied?
    a. cash accounting principle
    b. matching principel
    c. historical cost principle
    d. revenue recognition principle.

    I picked B. Now looking back, maybe the answer could’ve been A or D

    4. Declared cash dividends in 2011 but not paid until 2012.
    Do you:
    a. Record dividend expense for 2011
    b. Record dividend expense for 2012
    c. Record dividend payable for 2012 on the balance sheet
    d. A and C but not B
    E. None of the above.

    What were your guys’ answer to these?